[ippm] Re: Splitting draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-ext-hdr

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From: Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com>
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Hello Rakesh,
A suggested way forward could be to remove the MPLS Data plane from the current document and work towards progressing it.
In the meantime we can run an adoption call on a new draft that contains the parts that were removed.

Since this is a pretty big change of the scope of the document it would be good to assess the working group consensus to this approach first.
I will send a separate email to the list for that purpose.

BR
Marcus

From: Rakesh Gandhi <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Splitting draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-ext-hdr

Hello IPPM Chairs,

STAMP Extensions for Reflecting Packet Headers draft includes both IPv6 and MPLS Data planes.


  *   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-ext-hdr/

The MPLS data plane part has normative dependency on the on-going work in MPLS WG, specifically, on the MPLS Network Action (MNA).

As mentioned in the last IETF meeting, to avoid delaying the work for IPv6 data plane (and WG LC), we, authors, would like to split this draft into two documents, one for each data plane.

Please advise if this is possible and what would be the next steps.

Many thanks,
Rakesh (for authors)