Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-04.txt
Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@apple.com> Fri, 01 March 2024 22:49 UTC
Return-Path: <cpaasch@apple.com>
X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD48C14F693 for <ippm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 14:49:45 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -7.104
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=apple.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4WDJFWPya0nW for <ippm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 14:49:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from ma-mailsvcp-mx-lapp03.apple.com (ma-mailsvcp-mx-lapp03.apple.com [17.32.222.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09B6DC14F69B for <ippm@ietf.org>; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 14:49:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp03.rno.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp03.rno.apple.com [10.225.203.151]) by ma-mailsvcp-mx-lapp03.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.23.20230328 64bit (built Mar 28 2023)) with ESMTPS id <0S9O00PEKY2QAX00@ma-mailsvcp-mx-lapp03.apple.com> for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 14:49:41 -0800 (PST)
X-Proofpoint-GUID: r9qhRB7B7ubYYdZwtcS4QYj599Wk-LP5
X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: r9qhRB7B7ubYYdZwtcS4QYj599Wk-LP5
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.1011,Hydra:6.0.619,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2024-03-01_22,2024-03-01_03,2023-05-22_02
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=interactive_user_notspam policy=interactive_user score=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2311290000 definitions=main-2403010189
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=content-type : mime-version : subject : from : in-reply-to : date : cc : content-transfer-encoding : message-id : references : to; s=20180706; bh=UHZ9WO6LIDbBKQJ+DgiyhoScW7GRnYVI1UtFVAT2pEE=; b=AfYFAcD8cv8EFoQrmXWAZkYKBIRuzVOj9LkaaYWTDn7Y5iCS0oMFYFuiuzg5NWGTyaT6 Ugvy/jByR55t5sqA9fboyoiImIbWwZdgpqWg909Y0HI66dPjTHVHJ+HwZUC0NkxY//FB s3PiYlCA6Wii8nhn+4oar697ldo+ncvWHswmmDdLgFV+5pAzlzk1O3iOWvOz45xnbR2D mIjrWXIf93SJkwCNMWPBlHD1MtIbyFL38kIIG1p1pI/KDKqTXB5G6RJUeK4Rs7kbJGOr ydo7G02GZa6whjU9ejoD/CFvjMWl81a98hZvbeUHDjwoVwqdYc7Qlgx1AnVI5XK1yiOd EA==
Received: from rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com [17.179.253.15]) by rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp03.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.23.20230328 64bit (built Mar 28 2023)) with ESMTPS id <0S9O004COY2RGXL0@rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp03.rno.apple.com>; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 14:49:39 -0800 (PST)
Received: from process_milters-daemon.rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com by rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.23.20230328 64bit (built Mar 28 2023)) id <0S9O00S00Y0WFJ00@rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com>; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 14:49:39 -0800 (PST)
X-Va-A:
X-Va-T-CD: 723948813aed79c947a23a6f942d2d0e
X-Va-E-CD: 7f52e92dd28d2d05287bab2bc755d8da
X-Va-R-CD: c3cbbf50a26c82912a1546cca0f2af83
X-Va-ID: 82d8d649-50de-4136-a07c-7e93b850ad8a
X-Va-CD: 0
X-V-A:
X-V-T-CD: 723948813aed79c947a23a6f942d2d0e
X-V-E-CD: 7f52e92dd28d2d05287bab2bc755d8da
X-V-R-CD: c3cbbf50a26c82912a1546cca0f2af83
X-V-ID: debb9565-a637-4a97-9d1d-7834349b01d8
X-V-CD: 0
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.1011,Hydra:6.0.619,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2024-03-01_22,2024-03-01_03,2023-05-22_02
Received: from smtpclient.apple ([17.192.155.222]) by rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.23.20230328 64bit (built Mar 28 2023)) with ESMTPSA id <0S9O00IC6Y2QPO00@rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp02.rno.apple.com>; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 14:49:39 -0800 (PST)
Content-type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.131\))
From: Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@apple.com>
In-reply-to: <170933307400.22286.17296877063888796137@ietfa.amsl.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 14:49:28 -0800
Cc: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Message-id: <567BE017-9846-4D62-BA59-5FB0DE65BDBE@apple.com>
References: <170933307400.22286.17296877063888796137@ietfa.amsl.com>
To: IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.131)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/5abQte3RHoZ8OHCN7pZKy1M_zWY>
Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-04.txt
X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group <ippm.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ippm>, <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/>
List-Post: <mailto:ippm@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm>, <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 22:49:45 -0000
Hello, we are happy to publish the -04 of the responsiveness draft containing all the feedback from the WGLC. If there are any additional comments, we are happy to take them into account. Christoph > On Mar 1, 2024, at 2:44 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-04.txt is now available. It is a > work item of the IP Performance Measurement (IPPM) WG of the IETF. > > Title: Responsiveness under Working Conditions > Authors: Christoph Paasch > Randall Meyer > Stuart Cheshire > Will Hawkins > Name: draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-04.txt > Pages: 26 > Dates: 2024-03-01 > > Abstract: > > For many years, a lack of responsiveness, variously called lag, > latency, or bufferbloat, has been recognized as an unfortunate, but > common, symptom in today's networks. Even after a decade of work on > standardizing technical solutions, it remains a common problem for > the end users. > > Everyone "knows" that it is "normal" for a video conference to have > problems when somebody else at home is watching a 4K movie or > uploading photos from their phone. However, there is no technical > reason for this to be the case. In fact, various queue management > solutions have solved the problem. > > Our network connections continue to suffer from an unacceptable > amount of latency, not for a lack of technical solutions, but rather > a lack of awareness of the problem and deployment of its solutions. > We believe that creating a tool that measures the problem and matches > people's everyday experience will create the necessary awareness, and > result in a demand for solutions. > > This document specifies the "Responsiveness Test" for measuring > responsiveness. It uses common protocols and mechanisms to measure > user experience specifically when the network is under working > conditions. The measurement is expressed as "Round-trips Per Minute" > (RPM) and should be included with goodput (up and down) and idle > latency as critical indicators of network quality. > > The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness/ > > There is also an HTMLized version available at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-04 > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at: > rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
- [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness… internet-drafts
- Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-responsive… Christoph Paasch