Re: [ippm] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" <fbrockne@cisco.com>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Murray,

From: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
Sent: Dienstag, 27. April 2021 02:32
To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <fbrockne@cisco.com>
Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data@ietf.org; ippm-chairs@ietf.org; ippm@ietf.org; Al Morton <acm@research.att.com>
Subject: Re: Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:19 AM Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <fbrockne@cisco.com<mailto:fbrockne@cisco.com>> wrote:
> In Section 8:
>
>    New registries in this group can be created via RFC Required process
>    as per [RFC8126].
>
> Is there any other way to get IANA to create a sub-registry?

...FB: Francesca suggested to use “IETF Review”  ” instead of "RFC required", which very much reflects the way things are currently done in IPPM GW. The current work to define additional Flags, Option-Types, etc. are all following the “IETF Review” process already, i.e., there are working group drafts in IPPM for those. It would be very straight forward and even more natural to change to “IETF Review”. Given that Francesca suggested the change, the plan was to switch to “IETF Review” in the next revision. Would that work for you?

Hi Frank,

My comment wasn't about the registries themselves, which can have any policy you like, but rather this specific sentence about creating new sub-registries in this group.  I don't think I've ever seen a declaration that sub-registries can be created in any manner other than publication of a new RFC.  So what I was really asking is whether the sentence I cited here is even needed.

…FB: Thanks. Got it – and sorry that I did not catch the rhetoric nature of the question. We can of course remove the sentence – but IMHO it doesn’t hurt either, but just states the obvious as you say. If you ask to remove it, we’ll of course get rid of it. What would you suggest us doing?

Thanks, Frank

-MSK