Re: [ippm] RFC8321bis and 8889bis

Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com> Sat, 04 September 2021 07:09 UTC

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From: Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com>
To: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>, IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] RFC8321bis and 8889bis
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Hi Martin, All,
I can surely start working on a bis document and lead it together with those who already expressed interest.
I’m just wondering if the new I-D on RFC8321bis and RFC8889bis can be submitted directly to IESG as individual submission with the help of a sponsoring AD or as IPPM WG document.
What's your thought?

Regards,

Giuseppe


From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Martin Duke
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 5:55 PM
To: IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
Subject: [ippm] RFC8321bis and 8889bis

Hello IPPM,

Last Call on the status change still has some way to run, but there is already quite a bit of resistance to doing this without a bis document.

Consider this a formal invitation to get the process started. A bis document should eliminate both experiment-related boilerplate, and any bits of the design that we don't feel are mature enough for Proposed Standard.

Submit a -00!
Thanks
Martin