Re: [ippm] [tsvwg] [CCWG] [iccrg] New Internet Draft: Congestion Signaling (CSIG)

Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Fri, 15 September 2023 07:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ippm] [tsvwg] [CCWG] [iccrg] New Internet Draft: Congestion Signaling (CSIG)
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Please could people consider carefully which mailing list to cointinue 
to use to discuss this topic.

Cross-posting to multiple lists can be helpful to raise awareness of new 
work or important discussions, but cc'ing multiple list ought not to be 
used as a way of filling people's mail boxes. Please choose and use an 
appropriate list, in this case that could initially be ICCRG (if these 
are about new methods that have yet to be presented and shown to be 
ready for standardised Internet deployment).

Gorry
(TSVWG Co-Chair)

P.S. Thanks Abhiram for the heads-up to this new work, and the active 
discussion that this has generated, you clearly raised a topic that has 
some interest!

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>     >>>>
>     >>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 7:43 PM Abhiram Ravi
>     >>> <abhiramr=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>     >>>> Hi IPPM folks,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I am pleased to announce the publication of a new internet draft,
>     >>> Congestion Signaling (CSIG):
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-
>     >>> ravi-ippm-csig/
>     >>>>
>     >>>> CSIG is a new end-to-end packet header mechanism for in-band
>     >>>> signaling
>     >>> that is simple, efficient, deployable, and grounded in
>     concrete use
>     >>> cases of congestion control, traffic management, and network
>     >>> debuggability. We believe that CSIG is an important new
>     protocol that
>     >>> builds on top of existing in-band network telemetry protocols.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> We encourage you to read the CSIG draft and provide your
>     feedback
>     >>>> and
>     >>> comments. We have also cc'd the TSVWG, CCWG, and ICCRG mailing
>     lists,
>     >>> as we believe that this work may be of interest to their
>     members as well.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Thank you for your time and consideration.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Sincerely,
>     >>>> Abhiram Ravi
>     >>>> On behalf of the CSIG authors
>     >>
>     >
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