Re: [ippm] Call for adoption of PM on LAG

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Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2022 16:28:10 +0800
From: "li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com" <li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com>
To: Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn>, Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, ippm <ippm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption of PM on LAG
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Thank you for your support.

You suggestion is important. The member link information, the poposed extension to TWAMP/OWAMP/STAMP, MAY be used for validation to insure the test packets are reflected from the correct member link. If the validation fails, the test packet MUST be discarded. The encoding and procedure are discribed in our docs, please refer sender behavior and reflector behavior in draft-li-ippm-stamp-on-lag, and Micro STAMP-Test Procedures in draft-li-ippm-stamp-on-lag.



Best Regards,
Zhenqiang Li

li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
 
From: Aijun Wang
Date: 2022-09-02 14:59
To: 'Marcus Ihlar'; 'IETF IPPM WG'
Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption of PM on LAG
Hi, All:
 
Support its adoption.  
I think they are useful to measure the performance of member link of a LAG to facilitate the assignment of application traffic to the necessary path.
 
One suggestions to these documents:
1)     Should these document include some error-handling encoding and procedures? I notice that there are some situation that the send/receive information may be mismatch, adding the error information can certainly help to solve them.
 
 
Best Regards
 
Aijun Wang
China Telecom
 
From: ippm-bounces@ietf.org <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Marcus Ihlar
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:44 AM
To: IETF IPPM WG (ippm@ietf.org) <ippm@ietf.org>
Subject: [ippm] Call for adoption of PM on LAG
 
Hello IPPM,
This email starts an adoption call in the IPPM working group for the draft-li-ippm-stamp-on-lag and draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag documents. These documents extend STAMP, OWAMP and TWAMP to support performance measurements on member links of a Link Aggregation Group.
 
The first draft specifies an extension to STAMP and can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-ippm-stamp-on-lag/ 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-ippm-stamp-on-lag/ 
 
The second draft specifies extensions to OWAMP and TWAMP and can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag/
 
Please reply to this email by Thursday September 15, to indicate whether you support adoption of these documents.
 
BR
Marcus & Tommy