[ippm] Re: New Version Notification for draft-whimir-ippm-stamp-cos-ecn-00.txt
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Hi Greg, IPPM, The proposed functionality addresses an unmet need and the design is good in my opinion. This new version of the draft addresses the concerns I had with the previous version. I support the adoption of this document. Cheers, Bjørn ________________________________ From: Greg White <g.white=40CableLabs.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 6:16 PM To: ippm@ietf.org <ippm@ietf.org> Subject: [ippm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-whimir-ippm-stamp-cos-ecn-00.txt CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. IPPM WG- Greg Mirsky, Xiao Min, and I have uploaded a combined draft that includes our individual contributions to the proposed ECN extension for STAMP. This draft replaces the two drafts: draft-white-ippm-stamp-ecn draft-mirsky-ippm-stamp-cos-ext The details of the merge and subsequent edits are: - The Abstract and Introduction contain language from both drafts. - The ECN field from draft-mirsky-ippm-stamp-cos-ext is relabeled “EC2” and REC is relabeled as “EC1” so that the naming is consistent with the DSCP field names. - The suggestion from Xiao Min to not overload the RP field, and instead define a new RP field specifically for the return path for ECN has been adopted. We renamed “RP” as “RPD” (Return Path DSCP), and named the new RP field as “RPE” (Return Path ECN). Note that the syntax is different between these two (out of necessity). RPD=0b00 means that the return path DSCP is as specified in the DSCP1 value, and RPD=0b01 means that the return path DSCP uses the DSCP2 value. RPE=0b00 means that the return path ECN is unknown, and RPE=0b01 means that the return path ECN is as specified in the EC1 value. (NOTE: we may want to include a sentence to make the reader aware of this) - Rather than referring the reader to RFC8972 to understand how to implement the original fields, we copied the text from RFC8972 (including its Erratum) and fixed some additional things in that text. - We consolidated the text that discussed backwards compatibility into a single paragraph for each case. - We updated the security considerations section Best Regards, Greg On 6/24/25, 9:38 AM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>" <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote: A new version of Internet-Draft draft-whimir-ippm-stamp-cos-ecn-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Greg White and posted to the IETF repository. 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This document updates the definition of the Class of Service TLV (originally defined in RFC 8972) to enable the measurement of manipulation of the value of the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) field of the IP header by middleboxes between two STAMP hosts, and to enable discovery and measurement of paths that provide differential treatment of packets depending on the value of their ECN field. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list -- ippm@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to ippm-leave@ietf.org This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. 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