Re: [ippm] [IETF106] Proposed workshop on QUIC performance over high BDP
Joerg Ott <ott@in.tum.de> Tue, 05 November 2019 09:38 UTC
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To: Kuhn Nicolas <Nicolas.Kuhn@cnes.fr>, "etosat@ietf.org" <etosat@ietf.org>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, "iccrg@irtf.org" <iccrg@irtf.org>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>, "nwcrg@irtf.org" <nwcrg@irtf.org>, "'ippm@ietf.org'" <ippm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] [IETF106] Proposed workshop on QUIC performance over high BDP
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Hi guys, great activity -- we also did extensive emulation studies for QUIC over satellites in a controlled environment. Would be happy to share those findings if room. Cheers, Jörg On 05.11.19 09:57, Kuhn Nicolas wrote: > Hi, > > There are multiple drafts related to the performance of QUIC over large > BDP networks (draft-kuhn-quic-4-sat, draft-kuhn-quic-0rtt-bdp, > draft-ietf-quic-recovery) or related to the performance of encrypted > protocols in general (draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-cc). > > The objective of this workshop is to gather people interested in such > activity and discuss the best way towards better end user experience in > this use case. > > Details : https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/106sidemeetings > > Time : 3pm30 – 4pm30 on Wednesday > > Where : Bras Basah > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/floor-plan?room=bras-basah#raffles-city-convention-center > > > Proposed agenda: > > Introduction : contributions that showed performance issues with QUIC > over satellite links > > draft-kuhn-quic-0rtt-bdp : solution to let both client and server know > the path characteristics > > draft-kuhn-quic-4-sat : what can be done once both client and server > have this information > > draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-cc : generalization to any transport and best > current practice on internet congestion control at end points > > If time permits: sharing experimental results (interaction between > transport and high BDP systems) > > If there is anything you would like to present please let us know. > > > Kind regards, > > Nico, Gorry and Emile >