[ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 Buenos Aires
Brian Trammell <ietf@trammell.ch> Fri, 11 March 2016 13:01 UTC
Return-Path: <ietf@trammell.ch>
X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BDE12D6D3 for <ippm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:01:08 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.903
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jGc_OfauQcLQ for <ippm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:01:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from trammell.ch (trammell.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A9412D6D2 for <ippm@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:00:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [IPv6:2001:67c:10ec:52c7:8000::38e] (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:10ec:52c7:8000::38e]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42F611A0374 for <ippm@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:00:54 +0100 (CET)
From: Brian Trammell <ietf@trammell.ch>
X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_552C5F9C-F20C-4C52-A7CF-ECB848F6182F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha512"
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:00:54 +0100
Message-Id: <5E975C36-26D3-422B-A511-A2CE410A8606@trammell.ch>
To: ippm@ietf.org
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\))
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104)
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/L8YqLqcCOXBC0t5h2rSEiRNdPsQ>
Subject: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 Buenos Aires
X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group <ippm.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ippm>, <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/>
List-Post: <mailto:ippm@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm>, <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:01:08 -0000
Greetings, all, First, let us congratulate the IPPM working group on its excellent productivity in finally-published-RFC terms: we've seen five(!) documents published since Yokohama: - RFC 7679 (was draft-ietf-ippm-2679-bis) A One-Way Delay Metric for IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) - RFC 7680 (was draft-ietf-ippm-2680-bis) A One-Way Loss Metric for IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) - RFC 7717 (was draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec) IKEv2-Derived Shared Secret Key for the One-Way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) and Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) - RFC 7718 (was draft-ietf-ippm-owamp-registry) Registries for the One-Way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) - RFC 7750 (was draft-ietf-ippm-type-p-monitor) Differentiated Service Code Point and Explicit Congestion Notification Monitoring in the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) In addition: - RFC-to-be 7799 (draft-ietf-ippm-active-passive-06) just entered AUTH48 - draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06 has been approved and is in queue Well done, IPPM! With that, it's time to consider what to work on next, in order to plan our agenda for the meeting in Buenos Aires. We have a couple of active Working Group drafts: - draft-ietf-ippm-6man-pdm-option, in WGLC until next Friday. - draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry, to be revised on WGLC comments. - draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics, which needs work before a second WGLC. We'll want time on the agenda for all three of these. We've also adopted two new WG documents, for which we expect to see dratf-ietf-ippm- revisions before Monday 21 March: - draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang - draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry We'll want time on the agenda for these, too. Beyond that, we've reviewed discussion on the mailing list to see where the working group's energy seems to be for additional documents. First, we have seen a lot of discussion on what we call the "hybrid/coloring cluster", so I think we should have a discussion about approaches here, how they fit together, and what if anything we should consider adopting in this space: - draft-tempia-ippm-p3m - draft-chen-ippm-coloring-based-ipfpm-framework - draft-fioccola-ippm-rfc6812-alt-mark-ext We've already talked to Giuseppe Fioccola about these, and would like to propose a single presentation about all three followed by a long discussion slot. There's also been some discussion on draft-mirsky-ippm-time-format, and it seems like this one might be close enough to make an adoption call for too. All other drafts: As discussed in Yokohama, we'd like to reserve time for work that's actually already being discussed on the list, so at the end of the agenda we'll have time for discussion of new work without any substantial discussion so far. These will be organized as 5 minute lightning talks, and allocated FCFS in two queues, with completely new drafts having priority over ones that have already been presented. We're tentatively scheduled for a 2.5 hour slot on Monday morning, but there is discussion about moving us back to a 2 hour slot on Friday, so we'd propose the following agenda, with the last slot being either 15 or 45 minutes long: 10:00: Note well, intro, status, agenda bash (chairs, 10m) 10:10: draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry WGLC discussion completion, as req'd (10m) 10:20: draft-ietf-ippm-6man-pdm-option WGLC discussion completion (N. Elkins, 15m) 10:35: draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics new revision / second WGLC kickoff (M. Mathis, 10m) 10:45: Coloring/Hybrid Approach Presentation and Discussion (TBD, 45m) draft-tempia-ippm-p3m draft-chen-ippm-coloring-based-ipfpm-framework draft-fioccola-ippm-rfc6812-alt-mark-ext Discussion; decision on call to adopt? 11:30: draft-mirsky-ippm-time-format (G. Mirsky, 15m) Discussion: decision on call to adopt? 11:45: Lightning talks for new work: two requests received so far: draft-bailmir-ippm-twamp-dscp-ctrl-mon-00 (G. Mirsky) draft-mirsky-ippm-twamp-light-yang-02 (G. Mirsky) Authors: please let us know if you have any corrections here. Those with new work to present: please let us know if you'd like a lightning talk slot. Cheers, Brian and Bill (chair hats)
- [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 Buen… Brian Trammell
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Joachim Fabini
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … nalini.elkins
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Brian Trammell
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Brian Trammell
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Joachim Fabini
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … nalini.elkins
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- [ippm] R: IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 B… Fioccola Giuseppe
- Re: [ippm] IPPM WG Status and Agenda for IETF 95 … Brian Trammell