Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-08.txt

"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com> Thu, 01 April 2021 15:31 UTC

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From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, "Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de" <Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-08.txt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:25 AM
> To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com>; Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de
> Cc: ippm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-08.txt
> 
> On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 15:03 +0000, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote:
> > Great. As I often said, we have completed lots of testing to reach this
> point.
> >
> > So, with the text changes offered to resolve your comments on version 8 this
> > week, are we now good-to-go?
> >
> 
> Yes, I am satsified.
> 
> /Magnus
[acm] 
Thanks! I will submit version 09 when my development laptop returns from service today..

> 
> > -=-=-  Al -=-=-
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 10:59 AM
> > > To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com>; Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de
> > > Cc: ippm@ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-
> > > 08.txt
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I had actually missed that text at the bottom. But thanks for the answer.
> > > Yes,
> > > I
> > > can understand that complete starvation was not achieved in that short
> > > timescale
> > > for flow that are high rate. I think that is in the realm of what I
> > > expected.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Magnus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 12:53 +0000, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote:
> > > > bottom post:
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:27 AM
> > > > > To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com>;
> > > > > Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de
> > > > > Cc: ippm@ietf.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-
> method-
> > > > > 08.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > See below.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 23:37 +0000, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In Version 08, we have this statement in the Scope/Applicability
> > > > > > section regarding the
> > > > > > algorithm:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    The load rate adjustment algorithm's goal is to determine the
> > > > > > Maximum
> > > > > >    IP-Layer Capacity in the context of an infrequent, diagnostic,
> > > > > > short
> > > > > >    term measurement.  It is RECOMMENDED to discontinue non-
> measurement
> > > > > >    traffic that shares a subscriber's dedicated resources while
> > > > > > testing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We can express the limitations more clearly in the first sentence,
> and
> > > > > > augment the second sentence as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The load rate adjustment algorithm's scope is limited to helping
> > > > > > determine the Maximum IP-Layer Capacity in the context of an
> > > > > > infrequent, diagnostic, short term measurement. It is RECOMMENDED to
> > > > > > discontinue non-measurement traffic that shares a subscriber's
> > > > > > dedicated resources while testing: measurements may not be accurate
> > > > > > and throughput of competing elastic traffic may be greatly reduced.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I think that is a good sentence.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Magnus
> > > >
> > > > [acm]
> > > > Thanks. Did you also see the reply at the end of my message, regarding
> > > > your
> > > > question on competing traffic?
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >