Re: [ippm] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-22: (with COMMENT)
"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com> Wed, 04 December 2019 17:17 UTC
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From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com>
To: Éric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-22: (with COMMENT)
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:17:27 +0000
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-22: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Éric, Thanks for your review, please see replies below [acm], Al > -----Original Message----- > From: Éric Vyncke via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 8:36 AM > To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> > Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry@ietf.org; ippm-chairs@ietf.org; > ietf@wjcerveny.com; ippm@ietf.org > Subject: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-22: > (with COMMENT) > > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-22: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ietf.org_iesg_statement_discuss-2Dcriteria.html&d=DwIDaQ&c=LFYZ- > o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=- > EqEK9BLfYLCxQw5QIpvnCbgMRwglD07OW38FgE5f- > 0&s=ZGkx_Z4dGD4YiLCxag2aeKb_D369tT_Xys6-nW9KSI4&e= > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dippm-2Dmetric- > 2Dregistry_&d=DwIDaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=- > EqEK9BLfYLCxQw5QIpvnCbgMRwglD07OW38FgE5f- > 0&s=B_kk53Lojfac4VzaJgy87IkD4D31Ic8r8NRWpEXYHXo&e= > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you for the work put into this document. It is quite extensive (I > even > wonder whether it was useful to indicate the motivations for the > registry). > > There are a couple of COMMENTs below; feel free to ignore them but I would > appreciate if you replied. > > Regards, > > -éric > > == COMMENTS == > > -- Section 5 -- > "interpretable by the user." who is the user in this case? (I have my > guess of > course but let's try to be clear) > > Why specifying "implementable by the **software** designer," ? I.e., are HW > designers out of scope ? [acm] OK, added "or hardware" > > "accurate" is also quite vague [acm] OK, now reads accurate in terms of producing equivalent results, and for interoperability and deployment across vendors > > Also a couple of nits in the section about ',' or '.' and upper/lower case > characters. [acm] will seek and destroy > > -- Section 6.1 -- > s/will/should/ in "Why this Attempt Will Succeed" ? ;-) [acm] "should" it will be... > > -- Section 7 -- > The table part below is quite unclear at first and second reading. Worth > re-wording ? " Category > ------------------ > Column | Column | > " > Or perhaps use a tree form (à la YANG module tree) ? [acm] How about making it clear that this is a Legend, à la ======================================================================= Legend: Registry Categories and Columns are shown below as: Category ------------------... Column | Column |... ======================================================================= > > -- Section 7.1..2 -- > Probably worth mentioning "such as and not limited to" rather than "such > as" ? > > It is also unclear how the MetricType, Method, ... can be extended. [acm] We specified that aspect in IANA Considerations section 10.2: When preparing a Metric entry for Registration, the developer SHOULD choose Name elements from among the registered elements. However, if the proposed metric is unique in a significant way, it may be necessary to propose a new Name element to properly describe the metric, as described below. > > -- Section 11.1.3. -- > Should the URL be an https:// one ? > [acm] Thanks, that's the one I forgot to fix... all initial-registry draft entries say: https://www.iana.org/ ... <name>
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