Re: [ippm] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-rfc8889bis-03: (with COMMENT)

Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com> Tue, 20 September 2022 15:06 UTC

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Hi Eric,
Thanks a lot for your review.
Please find my replies inline tagged as [GF].

Regards,

Giuseppe

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Subject: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-rfc8889bis-03: (with COMMENT)

Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-ippm-rfc8889bis-03: No Objection

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Thanks for the work done in this document.

Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points; a reply will be appreciated.

Regards

-éric

## COMMENTS

### I-D Name

The name of the I-D is quite confusing "multipoint-to-multipoint"... I would
have really preferred to use "cluster" in the title and abstract.

[GF]: Maybe we could change the title to "Clustered Alternate-Marking Method" and mention the concept of Cluster in the Abstract too.

### Cluster

About "cluster", I second John's original comment about the "fuzziness" of the
cluster definition.

[GF]: I guess you agree with the canonical definition in section 2. I will double check if there are other mentions in the draft that can be confusing.

### Section 5

"multipoint flows" is also weird as usually a flow is between 2 entities.
Suggest to use "flow aggregate"

[GF]: We can consider to replace it.

### Cluster and NAT

A cluster is only defined as packets in == packets out. But, if 'flow' is
defined per IP addresses or 5-tuple, those properties must also be invariant,
i.e., neither IPv4 NAPT nor IPv6 NPT nor encapsulation/decapsulation. This
seems obvious, but this should be mentioned.

[GF]: You are right. The case of NAT could be mentioned.

### Section 9

The title is about 'recommendations', but the text contains 'MUST' and not 'IS
RECOMMENDED'. Suggest to change either the section title or the text itself.

[GF]: Ok, I will revise.