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Hi Ruediger,

Many thanks for your email. Glad you appreciate the PT proposal for SRv6 ne=
tworks.
We have experimental implementation at linerate in Broadcom Jericho 2, Cisc=
o Silicon One, Marvell Prestera, and Cisco ASR9k (as well of opensource sof=
tware). It would be great to hear from other vendors whether they can proce=
ss this at linerate as well.

With regards to the SR-MPLS draft, we are finalizing the text and we will p=
ost it soon for feedback.
With regards to the time-synchronization considerations, many thanks on you=
r feedback. We agree with you, and we'll add more considerations in the nex=
t revision.

Thanks,
Pablo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de <Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de>=20
Sent: viernes, 1 de abril de 2022 11:12
To: ahabdels=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org
Cc: spring@ietf.org; ippm@ietf.org; draft-filsfils-spring-path-tracing@ietf=
.org
Subject: [ippm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-filsfils-spring-path=
-tracing-00.txt

Hi Ahmed,

Thanks for the draft. I appreciate the small and well specified format of t=
he measurement and hope that endpoints and transit routers supporting Path =
Tracing in SRv6 networks are able to fill in the specified fields at linera=
te during forwarding. I'd also appreciate an SR-MPLS version of the draft.

I'd suggest to add more text related to the following statement:

         Note: all routers across the network MUST have time-
         synchronization.  The mechanism used for time synchronization
         is out of the scope of this draft.

An operator should be able to qualify an applicable time-synchronisation by=
 guidance of the draft. If Truncated Timestamp configuration depends on the=
 precision of time synchronization, guidance for interested operators shoul=
d be part of the draft. The choice of timestamp resolution may further depe=
nd on locally configured buffers. A Truncated Timestamp working well in the=
 absence of congestion, but creating erroneous information with the onset o=
f congestion might not be desired. Maybe a discussion on wrapping / overflo=
w may help too. Finally, the precision of the synchronization needs to be m=
onitored. That may be done out of band, but  centralized processing should =
be aware of timestamps created by a router with (temporarily) bad synch. A =
temporal change in precision of or a  loss of synch are common networking s=
ynch-events.

While the mechanism used for time synchronization doesn't need to be define=
d in the draft, a reference to some applicable synchronization mechanisms w=
ould be helpful. The list doesn't have to be complete, please add some comm=
odity examples.

Editorial nit: To me, a binding "Requirement" shouldn't be a "Note".

Regards,

Ruediger


On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:14 PM Ahmed Abdelsalam (ahabdels) <ahabdels=3D40ci=
sco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Dear SPRING WG,  IPPM WG,
>
> We have submitted a new I-D for Path Tracing in SRv6 networks (https://da=
tatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-filsfils-spring-path-tracing) to SPRING W=
G.
> We are looking for your feedback and comments.
> Path Tracing provides a record of the packet path as a sequence of interf=
ace ids. In addition, it provides a record of end-to-end delay, per-hop del=
ay, and load on each egress interface along the packet delivery path to fac=
ilitate operation of SR networks.
>
>
>
> Path Tracing allows to trace 14 hops with only a 40-octet IPv6 Hop-by-Hop=
 extension header.
>
>
> We will present Path Tracing to the SPRING WG at next IETF
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/agenda-113-spring-
> 00.txt)
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ahmed
>
>
>
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Friday, 4 March 2022 at 16:48
> To: Ahmed Abdelsalam (ahabdels) <ahabdels@cisco.com>, cf(mailer list)=20
> <cf@cisco.com>, Mark Yufit <mark.yufit@broadcom.com>, Pablo Camarillo
> (pcamaril) <pcamaril@cisco.com>, Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)=20
> <pcamaril@cisco.com>, Satoru Matsushima=20
> <satoru.matsushima@g.softbank.co.jp>, Thomas.Graf=20
> <Thomas.Graf@swisscom.com>, Yuanchao Su <yitai.syc@alibaba-inc.com>
> Subject: New Version Notification for=20
> draft-filsfils-spring-path-tracing-00.txt
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-filsfils-spring-path-tracing-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Pablo Camarillo Garvia and posted=20
> to the IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-filsfils-spring-path-tracing
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Path Tracing in SRv6 networks
> Document date:  2022-03-04
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          15
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-filsfils-spring-pat=
h-tracing-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-pa=
th-tracing/
> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-filsfils-spri=
ng-path-tracing
>
>
> Abstract:
>    Path Tracing provides a record of the packet path as a sequence of
>    interface ids.  In addition, it provides a record of end-to-end
>    delay, per-hop delay, and load on each egress interface along the
>    packet delivery path.
>
>    Path Tracing allows to trace 14 hops with only a 40-bytes IPv6 Hop-
>    by-Hop extension header.
>
>    Path Tracing supports fine grained timestamp.  It has been designed
>    for linerate hardware implementation in the base pipeline.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
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