Re: [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data

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From: "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" <fbrockne@cisco.com>
To: Haoyu Song <haoyu.song@futurewei.com>, Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data
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Haoyu,

Thanks. Please see inline ("...FB").

From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Haoyu Song
Sent: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 23:26
To: Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data

IPPM and IOAM authors,

I have a question about the variable length opaque data field in the trace option. Does that mean each node may add a variable length field (i.e., use a different scheme ID)?

     "When this field is part of the data field but a node populating
      the field has no opaque state data to report, the Length must be
      set to 0 and the Schema ID must be set to 0xFFFFFF to mean no
      schema."

>From the above description, it seems so.  Then there's a problem. If each node's data has different size, then one can't guarantee that the RemainingLen is exactly 0 when the data overflow happens.

...FB: Could you detail the problem a bit more: Why would the remaining length need to be exactly 0 in case of a data overflow? If RemainingLen < (NodeLen + sizeof(opaque snapshot)) in 4 octet units, then a node would not add data.

Another issue:

    "If IOAM-Trace-Type bit 22 is not set, then NodeLen specifies the
      actual length added by each node.  If IOAM-Trace-Type bit 22 is
      set, then the actual length added by a node would be (NodeLen +
      Opaque Data Length)."

I think the "actual length added by a node would be (NodeLen+ size of opaque state snapshot field). Because the opaque data is only a part of the opaque state snapshot field, and  (opaque data length + 4 byte)=size of opaque state snapshot field.  Some other places need similar clarification.
...FB: Thanks. It makes sense to harmonize the description and at the same time, make it more specific - i.e. match it  to what is already used in section 4.4.1, i.e. "NodeLen + sizeof(opaque snapshot)" in 4 octet units.
Cheers, Frank

Haoyu

From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Tommy Pauly
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:48 AM
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Subject: [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data

Hello IPPM,

Happy New Year! This email starts a working group last call for "Data Fields for In-situ OAM" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data%2F&data=02%7C01%7Chaoyu.song%40futurewei.com%7C62dfcd2f485d4a27f58208d79391677f%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637140125044139853&sdata=Sf3SxjE%2FqK3X760G8c0Tfemu%2FPiqpkpIVHswudQWDTc%3D&reserved=0>).

The last call will end on Tuesday, January 21.. Please reply to ippm@ietf.org<mailto:ippm@ietf.org> with your reviews and comments. Please indicate whether you think this document is ready for publication.

Best,
Tommy (as co-chair)