Re: [ippm] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-08, closes 23 October 2019

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 05 November 2019 02:35 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:34:58 -0800
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To: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:44 PM Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
wrote:

> I actually think it's a pretty good summary, and delivers exactly what's
> promised in the title.  OTOH I can also see that it's going to get
> bikeshedded
> to death, and will probably never be editable into a form where people
> won't
> complain about it no matter how many changes are made.  Alternatively,
> it'll
> end up watered down to a point where no-one can complain any more but it
> won't
> say anything terribly useful by then.
>
> Perhaps it could be published as is with a comment that it represents the
> opinions of the authors?  Although given that it's Informational and not
> Standards-track or a BCP, that should be a given anyway.
>

Actually, no. Most IETF documents, even informational ones, bear a
statement that they have IETF Consensus.

See: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5741#section-3.2.1

-Ekr


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