Re: [ippm] Adoption call for Explicit Flow Measurements Techniques

Nicolas Kuhn <nicolas.kuhn.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 14 October 2021 14:31 UTC

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From: Nicolas Kuhn <nicolas.kuhn.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 16:31:06 +0200
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Adoption call for Explicit Flow Measurements Techniques
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Dear all,

I support the adoption of the draft.

On a side note, it may be worth pointing out RFC9065, with the proposed
approach being 'beneficial' (as opposed to malicious!).
"

 Current uses of transport header information by network devices on
   the Internet path are explained.  These uses can be beneficial or
   malicious.  This is written to provide input to the discussion around
   what is an appropriate balance by highlighting some implications of
   transport header encryption.
"


Cheers

Nico

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 4:09 PM Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar=
40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Speaking purely as an individual here and not as co-chair.
>
> I support the adoption of this draft, it serves as a good foundation to
> advance our understanding of the utility of end-to-end marking bits.
>
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> *From:* ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Alexander L Clemm
> *Sent:* den 13 oktober 2021 07:06
> *To:* ippm@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ippm] Adoption call for Explicit Flow Measurements
> Techniques
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> I think that a description of various flow measurement techniques using
> various types of marking bits will make for a useful informational document
> with substance.   I support adoption as well.
>
> --- Alex
>
> On 10/12/2021 9:40 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I support adoption of this draft. On-path telemetry is an essential OAM
> tool.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 8:59 AM Tommy Pauly <tpauly=
> 40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Hello IPPM,
>
>
>
> This email starts an adoption call for
> draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements, "Explicit Flow Measurements
> Techniques”. This document is proposed as an Informational document that
> describes techniques that go beyond single bit markings like the QUIC spin
> bit.
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements/
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-02
>
>
>
> This adoption call will last until *Friday, October 22*. Please review
> the document, and reply to this email thread to indicate if you think IPPM
> should adopt this document.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Tommy
>
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