Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-02.txt

Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 04 February 2022 18:57 UTC

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Hi,

 

Wrt power of two comment from Haoyu.

This used to be the case in the early days because of poorly implemented load-balancing in the silicon, it was often the case that with odd number of constituents we’d see a rather uneven distribution.

Most of these issues have been fixed in the last 3 years, these days - it is very common (especially in DC) to use a LAG as an operational construct and  provision a LAG with a single link, so the future upgrade doesn’t require changes to L3 infra.

 

I don’t’ think there a need to update the drawing nor to explicitly mentioning  “power of two” assumption anywhere in the text .

 

Cheers,

Jeff

 

From: Tianran Zhou
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 5:06 PM
To: Haoyu Song; Tianran Zhou; IETF IPPM WG (ippm@ietf.org)
Subject: Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-02.txt

 

Hi Haoyu,

 

Thanks very much for your comments. Your perspective is correct.

I will revise the document in the next version.

 

Best,

Tianran

 

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Subject: Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-02.txt

 

WG,

 

I think the scenario for LAG performance measurement is practical and the method is sound, so I support this work.

For Figure 1, I think usually for load balancing with hashing, the number of links of a LAG would be power of two.

 

Best,

Haoyu Song

 

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Subject: [ippm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-02.txt

 

Hi WG,

 

We think this is an useful work on adapting OWAMP/TWAMP in LAG performance measurement.

We updated this draft based on the comments from the meeting discussion and mailing list.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

More reviews and comments are welcome.

 

Cheers,

Tianran

 

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Subject: New Version Notification for draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-02.txt

 

 

A new version of I-D, draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-02.txt

has been successfully submitted by Tianran Zhou and posted to the IETF repository.

 

Name:               draft-li-ippm-otwamp-on-lag

Revision:           02

Title:                  One-way/Two-way Active Measurement Protocol Extensions for Performance Measurement on LAG

Document date:           2022-01-24

Group:               Individual Submission

Pages:               13

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   This document defines extensions to One-way Active Measurement

   Protocol (OWAMP), and Two-way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) to

   implement performance measurement on every member link of a Link

   Aggregation Group (LAG).  Knowing the measured metrics of each member

   link of a LAG enables operators to enforce the performance based

   traffic steering policy across the member links.

 

 

                                                                                 

 

 

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