Re: [ippm] [mat-wg] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics & consequences
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Wed, 26 October 2022 08:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ippm] [mat-wg] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics & consequences
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To add some context to this enormous cross post of mine, to try and get folk here to think further out of the box, the FCC is due to announce how "consumer broadband labels" are supposed to work on Nov 15th. Nobody knows what they are going to announce. Their first attempt was laughable, the laughs in this attempt (which is admittedly much better), are subtler. https://www.benton.org/blog/consumer-driven-broadband-label-design I liked how they leveraged waveform's categories in this one. I (cynically) loved how the delay and loss both grew in this example, where loss should increase with less delay in most circumstances. Perhaps consumers can be trained to look for high loss and low delay, but I doubt it. -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
- [ippm] misery metrics & consequences Dave Taht
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- Re: [ippm] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics &… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [ippm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics & conse… rjmcmahon
- Re: [ippm] [Starlink] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] miser… Christoph Paasch
- Re: [ippm] [Starlink] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] miser… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [ippm] [Starlink] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] miser… Christoph Paasch
- Re: [ippm] [tsvwg] [Starlink] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discus… Neal Cardwell
- Re: [ippm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics & conse… Glenn Fishbine
- Re: [ippm] [Rpm] [Starlink] [M-Lab-Discuss] miser… rjmcmahon
- Re: [ippm] [Rpm] [Starlink] [M-Lab-Discuss] miser… rjmcmahon
- Re: [ippm] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics &… J Ignacio Alvarez-Hamelin
- Re: [ippm] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery metrics &… J Ignacio Alvarez-Hamelin
- Re: [ippm] [mat-wg] [Rpm] [M-Lab-Discuss] misery … Dave Taht
- Re: [ippm] [Rpm] [tsvwg] [Starlink] [M-Lab-Discus… rjmcmahon
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