Re: [ippm] [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations
Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com> Thu, 14 December 2023 15:09 UTC
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From: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>, DetNet WG <detnet@ietf.org>, mpls <mpls@ietf.org>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>, IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>, opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>, Pascal Thubert <pascal.thubert@gmail.com>, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
Thread-Topic: [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations
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Subject: Re: [ippm] [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations
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Loa, Greg, I am not sure we really need abbreviations for in-band and out-of-band OAM since we have lived without these abbreviations for quite a long time. However, it does not harm to define those acronyms While OOB is quite commonly used as an abbreviation for out-of-band, I do not recall to have ever seen an abbreviation for in-band ☹ My suggestion would be to use IB for in-band to have a consistent rule with the OOB acronym (i.e. ib-OAM and oob-OAM) My 2 cents Italo From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Sent: mercoledì 13 dicembre 2023 04:13 To: DetNet WG <detnet@ietf.org>; mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>; IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>; Pascal Thubert <pascal.thubert@gmail.com>; Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Subject: [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations Dear All, Loa and I have discussed these abbreviations to help us find a solution that avoids the confusion we found when we came across them. Firstly, what they stand for: * IOAM - In-situ OAM (RFC 9197<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9197/>) * iOAM - in-band OAM (RAW architecture<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-raw-architecture-13>) * oOAM - out-of-band OAM (RAW architecture<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-raw-architecture-13>) We discussed the issue with Pascal and came to slightly different abbreviations for the last two: * inb-OAM * oob-OAM We also discord these abbreviations with the RFC Editor. Resulting from that, RFC Editor agreed to add IOAM to the RFC Editor Abbreviation List<https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt>. The other two abbreviations cannot be added at this time. If that is needed, we can ask the RFC Editor to add them once the respective RFC is published. We are seeking your feedback on the following: * Do you see the benefit of introducing two new abbreviations for in-band OAM and out-of-band OAM? * Which set of abbreviations (iOAM/oOAM vs. inb-OAM/oob-OAM) do you prefer for being used in IETF? * Or would you propose another set of abbreviations? Regards, Loa and Greg
- [ippm] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] [IPv6] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviati… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [ippm] [IPv6] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviati… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [ippm] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… Florian Kauer
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… Florian Kauer
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… Florian Kauer
- Re: [ippm] [IPv6] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviati… Michael Richardson
- Re: [ippm] [IPv6] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviati… Bob Hinden
- Re: [ippm] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbrevia… xiong.quan
- Re: [ippm] [mpls] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM a… Adrian Farrel
- [ippm] Is out-of-band OAM relevant? (Was: IOAM, i… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [ippm] Is out-of-band OAM relevant? (Was: IOA… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [ippm] [OPSAWG] Is out-of-band OAM relevant? … Italo Busi
- Re: [ippm] [mpls] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM a… tom petch
- Re: [ippm] [IPv6] [mpls] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [ippm] [mpls] [IPv6] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and… Loa Andersson
- Re: [ippm] [IPv6] [mpls] [Detnet] IOAM, iOAM, and… xiao.min2
- Re: [ippm] [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviati… Italo Busi
- Re: [ippm] [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviati… Loa Andersson