Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-brockners-opsawg-ioam-deployment-00.txt

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From: Barak Gafni <gbarak@mellanox.com>
To: "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" <fbrockne@cisco.com>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>, "ippm@ietf.org" <ippm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-brockners-opsawg-ioam-deployment-00.txt
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Dear authors,
Thanks for this contribution, it is highly appreciated!

I would like to suggest some further discussion on the below topics:
1. The distinction between "Endpoint active measurement" and "IOAM active measurement using probe packets", as well as the pointer to trace only.
2. IOAM layering - Although there is a good infrastructure laid out, I think that this topic need more details. Mostly, we need to discuss the definition of a layer, and whether an underlay can use a shim layer and consider ownership. For example, which layer an IOAM header belongs to when carried within Geneve, or over GRE in multiple cases.
3. IOAM trace types - I would like to suggest to consider the description of the distinction between hw and sw implementations, including pointing out suggested solutions that support both. 

I would be glad to further collaborate with you to discuss the above

Thanks,
Barak

-----Original Message-----
From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
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To: opsawg@ietf.org; ippm@ietf.org
Subject: [ippm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-brockners-opsawg-ioam-deployment-00.txt


Several of you have indicated multiple times that it would really help, if we had an "IOAM deployment" draft that discusses the various deployment considerations for IOAM all in one place - and serves as a single entry point for IOAM, referencing in the different IOAM related drafts.

We finally arrived at creating an initial revision - and we greatly appreciate your thoughts and comments how to evolve this further.

Thanks much, Frank


> -----Original Message-----
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2019 17:17
> To: Daniel Bernier <daniel.bernier@bell.ca>; Frank Brockners 
> (fbrockne) <fbrockne@cisco.com>; daniel.bernier@bell.ca 
> <daniel.bernier@bell.ca>; Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab) 
> <shwethab@cisco.com>
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brockners-opsawg-ioam- 
> deployment-00.txt
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-brockners-opsawg-ioam-deployment-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Frank Brockners and posted to the 
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name:		draft-brockners-opsawg-ioam-deployment
> Revision:	00
> Title:		In-situ OAM Deployment
> Document date:	2019-10-30
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