Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-08.txt

"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com> Thu, 01 April 2021 12:53 UTC

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From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de" <Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-08.txt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:27 AM
> To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com>; Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de
> Cc: ippm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-08.txt
> 
> Hi,
> 
> See below.
> 
> On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 23:37 +0000, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote:
> >
> > In Version 08, we have this statement in the Scope/Applicability
> > section regarding the
> > algorithm:
> >
> >    The load rate adjustment algorithm's goal is to determine the Maximum
> >    IP-Layer Capacity in the context of an infrequent, diagnostic, short
> >    term measurement.  It is RECOMMENDED to discontinue non-measurement
> >    traffic that shares a subscriber's dedicated resources while testing.
> >
> > We can express the limitations more clearly in the first sentence, and
> > augment the second sentence as follows:
> >
> > The load rate adjustment algorithm's scope is limited to helping
> > determine the Maximum IP-Layer Capacity in the context of an
> > infrequent, diagnostic, short term measurement. It is RECOMMENDED to
> > discontinue non-measurement traffic that shares a subscriber's
> > dedicated resources while testing: measurements may not be accurate
> > and throughput of competing elastic traffic may be greatly reduced.
> >
> 
> Yes, I think that is a good sentence.
> 
> /Magnus
[acm] 
Thanks. Did you also see the reply at the end of my message, regarding your question on competing traffic?

Al


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