RAND and non-commercial use license to end users
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> Sun, 30 November 2014 17:56 UTC
Return-Path: <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
X-Original-To: ipr-wg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipr-wg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3571A1A47 for <ipr-wg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:56:20 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 1.14
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.14 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u3xmEaCjKwKA for <ipr-wg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:56:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from albireo.enyo.de (albireo.enyo.de [46.237.207.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFAFA1A1A42 for <ipr-wg@ietf.org>; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:56:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [172.17.203.2] (helo=deneb.enyo.de) by albireo.enyo.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) id 1Xv8jI-0003oV-FY for ipr-wg@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:56:16 +0100
Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <fw@deneb.enyo.de>) id 1Xv8jI-0001kt-8X for ipr-wg@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:56:16 +0100
From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: ipr-wg@ietf.org
Subject: RAND and non-commercial use license to end users
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:56:16 +0100
Message-ID: <877fyctvwf.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipr-wg/4lT_ihKqPEaS9mDaxn-U3r2hy8g
X-BeenThere: ipr-wg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IPR-WG <ipr-wg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipr-wg>, <mailto:ipr-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipr-wg/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipr-wg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipr-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg>, <mailto:ipr-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:56:20 -0000
Let's assume there is a piece of technology for which vendors can only obtain licenses under conditions which do not allow them to grant end users sub-licenses for commercial use. (I.e., they must stipulate in the product documentation that the IPR license is for personal, non-commercial use only.) Does this still fall under RAND terms? I think it's distinctly lacking in the “reasonable” department, specifically considering there are jurisdictions where personal, non-commercial use of a patent is never infringement (sadly not the U.S., though).