RE: Normatively referenced specifications

Michael Cameron <michael.cameron@ericsson.com> Wed, 18 December 2013 18:31 UTC

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>>Whereas I read the challenging part of this discussion as having to do with requirements for disclosure.  Certainly the assertions in the thread that gave me pause were ones that claimed clever, nuanced interpretations of our rules in order to avoid disclosure.

>>Once IPR is disclosed, how the IETF chooses to deal with that information might indeed get complicated, nuanced or whatever.

Agreed!

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