Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-author-contributors-00.txt

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From: "Scott Bradner" <sob@harvard.edu>
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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-author-contributors-00.txt

> I just published this ID as a (belated) follow up to the IPR WG session
> at the last IETF meeting.
>
> The ID proposes that the IETF obtain from contributors the right to
> authorize the development of derivative works anywhere (as was suggested
> by Sam  Hartman) - note that this proposal does not address when & how
> such authorization would be done - it only gets the ability to do such
> authorization from the contributors.

But there are those that dont want to give blanket authorizations or maybe
cannot. This is a serious problem with the release process since there still
is no way of assuring that the person submitting the media has the right to
do and once public disclosure is done, there is no possibly way back to that
same status of being protectable everywhere per se.

>
> I've already received a suggestion (from Chuck Adams) that the IETF
> should get the right to use, within the IETF standards process, any
> derivative works developed outside the IETF.

This also essentially makes the IETF opensource and would have to be applied
to all in place RFC's and ID's filed as well - I dont see the pre-rule
filers granting this to the IETF without a fight.

>
> I think this is a good idea but I think that a requirement for that
> should go in a different section of a revised RFC 3978 since this
> paragraph is in a section requesting rights from contributors.

I dont believe that it is reasonable to change the derivative rights rules
now since it puts everyone submitting a process for standardization in a
less favorable slot than someone several years ago doing the same thing.
The IETF may have a right to change its processes at any time but not in a
manner that is adversarial to those in the program relative to some earlier
metric.

>
> Another ID following up on the IPR WG session should be published very
> soon now (submitted last night) that addresses the issue of making
> extracts of RFCs for documentation, help pages etc.

ID's and RFC's still need use descriptions of the technologies being
designed as well. The same arguments apply.

Todd

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