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Re: Late IPR disclosures

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 26 June 2022 01:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: Late IPR disclosures
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To: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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My question is whether there should be a discussion in 6man whether this affects the rough consensus to proceed with the document. I have no particular opinion on that, but it seems to me that a late IPR disclosure should be treated just like a late substantive change.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 26-Jun-22 10:55, Erik Kline wrote:
> There are IPR claims on the two IPPM drafts referred to in the handling of this option.  I have not read any of the associated IPR patent filings themselves (IANAL).
> 
> I read this situation to mean that the treatment of the data in the option is likely to be covered by the IPR disclosures on the IPPM drafts discussing their use.  Whatever is claimed about use of this information in the IPv6 option is either competing with/related to the IPPM IPR filings, or someone has attempted to file for IPR on "something/anything in an IPv6 option".
> 
> Regardless, as this document is just about putting the IPPM alt-mask information into an IPv6 option I don't see that there's much in the way of "alternatives" to be considered.  And "alternative" would be an entirely different document about and entirely different option and (probably) entirely different treatment of the information contained in that option.
> 
> But, IANAL
> 
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 3:12 PM S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com <mailto:sm%2Bietf@elandsys.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Brian,
>     At 02:37 PM 25-06-2022, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>      >You mean https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5320/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5320/> ?
> 
>     Yes.
> 
>     It's an odd case (re. Adrian's comment).
> 
>     Regards,
>     S. Moonesamy
>

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