Re: clarification of blanket statement text

"todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net> Tue, 15 February 2005 21:28 UTC

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From: todd glassey <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
To: Scott W Brim <sbrim@cisco.com>, ipr-wg@ietf.org
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:19:27 -0800
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Scott - Can I ask a really stupid question? - What is the IETF going to do
if someone violates these rules? How will it effect initiatives that are
already completed and any underway at the time. My point is simple, rules
without the teeth to enforce them is a roar with no substance backing it up.

Todd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott W Brim" <sbrim@cisco.com>
To: <ipr-wg@ietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:59 PM
Subject: clarification of blanket statement text


> I'd like to discuss this at the meeting.  If necessary I can write up
> a small draft based on the results of discussion.  It's within scope
> of the current charter.
>
> In RFC 3668 6.4.3, it says:
>
>    However, the requirement for an IPR disclosure is satisfied by a
>    blanket statement of the IPR discloser's willingness to license all
>    of its potential IPR meeting the requirements of Section 6.6 (and
>    either Section 6.1.1 or 6.1.2) to implementers of an IETF
>    specification on a royalty-free basis as long as any other terms
>    and conditions are disclosed in the IPR disclosure statement.
>
> RFC 3668 explicitly says "royalty-free".
> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/DYNAMICSOFT-SIMPLE.txt uses that term,
> but consider
> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-salowey-tls-ticket.txt,
> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/hp-mib, and the classic RFC 1822 as
> examples that do not say "royalty-free" -- they say the discloser will
> "not assert" its patent except under certain specified conditions.
>
> Could the "not assert" terms in those be used in a blanket statement
> legitimately according to RFC 3668?
>
> Thanks ... Scott (Brim)
>
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