Re: Issue found in RFC 3667 text

"todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net> Wed, 28 April 2004 18:16 UTC

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From: todd glassey <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
To: jorge.contreras@haledorr.com
Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>, Scott Bradner <sob@harvard.edu>, ipr-wg@ietf.org, rbarr@cisco.com
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Subject: Re: Issue found in RFC 3667 text
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>
> I believe we decided most explicitly that if you can't even say "I may
have
> IPR here", you can't participate in the discussion. That's the essence of
> the attempt to avoid undue influence by holders of submarine patents.
>
> We DO have existing practice of filing IPR disclosures that say "Company X
> has an unpublished application for IPR that relates to section Foo of
> document Bar, please contact XXX if you need more information". Which
> complies with the documents, and serves an useful "heads-up" purpose.

Jorge - Cant it be argued that this publication of this statement
constitutes "a viable public notice of this IP's existence" which then
topples the first domino by starting the IP timers in Japan...

If so, is this really a wise requirement since it obviously damages any
effort that is under-development.

>
> Re the original subject of this thread (the race condition): This should
be
> filed as an errata on RFC 3667. The intent of the WG was completely clear
> in list discussions (allow filings of IPR within reasonable time (days)
> after I-D publication), and the fact that the RFC does not reflect the WG
> consensus is a bug.
>
> My opinion.
>
>                     Harald
>
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