Re: [Ips] [rddp] STORM proposed charter - 31 May 2009 version

<Black_David@emc.com> Mon, 15 June 2009 20:38 UTC

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Ok, I'll fix it.

Thanks,
--David


 


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	From: arkady kanevsky [mailto:arkady.kanevsky@gmail.com] 
	Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:33 PM
	To: Black, David
	Cc: storm@ietf.org; imss@ietf.org; ips@ietf.org; rddp@ietf.org
	Subject: Re: [rddp] STORM proposed charter - 31 May 2009 version
	
	
	David,
	I was not proposing to extend it beyond IP based protocols.
	Specifically I am trying to ensure that new spec can support
	TCP/MPA and SCTP. Other protocols that are not IP based
	or not even Ethernet based, in my view, are outside the scope of
IETF.
	 
	In essense, it is RDMA connection setup on top of message
	based protocol. So It be done on top of TCP/MPA, or SCTP or
	maybe some other message based protocols that use IP.
	Thanks,
	Arkady
	
	
	On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:45 PM, <Black_David@emc.com>; wrote:
	

		Arkady,
		 
		I'll beef up the bullet, but probably not with that
		degree of specifics.  Thanks for pointing this out,
		and I apologize for the delay in responding.

		Thanks,
		--David
		

		 


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			From: arkady kanevsky
[mailto:arkady.kanevsky@gmail.com] 
			Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:26 PM
			To: Black, David
			Cc: storm@ietf.org; imss@ietf.org; ips@ietf.org;
rddp@ietf.org
			Subject: Re: [rddp] STORM proposed charter - 31
May 2009 version
			
			
			David, 
			The description of RDDP MPA bullet is too
narrow.
			(5) RDDP MPA: Good support for MPI applications
requires a small
			update to MPA startup functionality to allow
either end
			of the connection to initiate.

			This bullet should also cover ORD/IRD
negotiation as part of
			connection setup. Also current RDDP connection
setup is part of MPA
			spec which is primarily for TCP stream markers.
This bullet should provide
			RDDP connection setup for both TCP and SCTP and
for any message based
			protocol.

			How about:
			(5) RDDP Connection Setup: Good support for MPI
applications requires a small
			update to MPA startup functionality to allow
either end
			of the connection to initiate. Add RDMA Read
credits to RDDP Connection
			        Setup. Make RDDP connection setup to be
applicable for any message based
			        protocols, including but not limited to
TCP with MPA markers and SCTP.

			I hope it is not too late to beef up this
bullet.
			Thanks,
			Arkady

			On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:03 PM,
<Black_David@emc.com>; wrote:
			

				What I believe is the final draft of the
proposed charter
				for the STORM WG is attached; I've done
a bunch of editing
				and added the info about T10 and T11 doc
access.  This is
				about to go out for wider review.
				
				Also, a reminder that STORM discussion
will stop cc:'ing
				other mailing lists soon.  If you're
interested in STORM
				work, please subscribe to the
storm@ietf.org mailing list:
	
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storm
				
				Finally - this is a near-final reminder
that the rddp@ietf.org
				mailing list will be closing soon - all
discussion of RDDP
				protocols will move to the
storm@ietf.org mailing list.
				
				Thanks,
				--David
	
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