Re: [Ips] [rddp] STORM proposed charter - 31 May 2009 version

arkady kanevsky <arkady.kanevsky@gmail.com> Mon, 15 June 2009 20:32 UTC

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:32:44 -0400
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From: arkady kanevsky <arkady.kanevsky@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ips] [rddp] STORM proposed charter - 31 May 2009 version
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David,
I was not proposing to extend it beyond IP based protocols.
Specifically I am trying to ensure that new spec can support
TCP/MPA and SCTP. Other protocols that are not IP based
or not even Ethernet based, in my view, are outside the scope of IETF.

In essense, it is RDMA connection setup on top of message
based protocol. So It be done on top of TCP/MPA, or SCTP or
maybe some other message based protocols that use IP.
Thanks,
Arkady

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:45 PM, <Black_David@emc.com>; wrote:

>  Arkady,
>
> I'll beef up the bullet, but probably not with that
> degree of specifics.  Thanks for pointing this out,
> and I apologize for the delay in responding.
>
> Thanks,
> --David
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* arkady kanevsky [mailto:arkady.kanevsky@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:26 PM
> *To:* Black, David
> *Cc:* storm@ietf.org; imss@ietf.org; ips@ietf.org; rddp@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [rddp] STORM proposed charter - 31 May 2009 version
>
>   David, The description of RDDP MPA bullet is too narrow.
>  (5) RDDP MPA: Good support for MPI applications requires a small
> update to MPA startup functionality to allow either end
> of the connection to initiate.
>
> This bullet should also cover ORD/IRD negotiation as part of
> connection setup. Also current RDDP connection setup is part of MPA
> spec which is primarily for TCP stream markers. This bullet should provide
> RDDP connection setup for both TCP and SCTP and for any message based
> protocol.
>
> How about:
>  (5) RDDP Connection Setup: Good support for MPI applications requires a
> small
> update to MPA startup functionality to allow either end
> of the connection to initiate. Add RDMA Read credits to RDDP Connection
>         Setup. Make RDDP connection setup to be applicable for any message
> based
>         protocols, including but not limited to TCP with MPA markers and
> SCTP.
>
> I hope it is not too late to beef up this bullet.
> Thanks,
> Arkady
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:03 PM, <Black_David@emc.com>; wrote:
>
>> What I believe is the final draft of the proposed charter
>> for the STORM WG is attached; I've done a bunch of editing
>> and added the info about T10 and T11 doc access.  This is
>> about to go out for wider review.
>>
>> Also, a reminder that STORM discussion will stop cc:'ing
>> other mailing lists soon.  If you're interested in STORM
>> work, please subscribe to the storm@ietf.org mailing list:
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storm
>>
>> Finally - this is a near-final reminder that the rddp@ietf.org
>> mailing list will be closing soon - all discussion of RDDP
>> protocols will move to the storm@ietf.org mailing list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --David
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>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Arkady Kanevsky
>
>


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Cheers,
Arkady Kanevsky