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Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00.txt

"Valery Smyslov" <smyslov.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 19 March 2019 08:34 UTC

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From: Valery Smyslov <smyslov.ietf@gmail.com>
To: "'Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View)'" <jun.hu@nokia.com>, 'Paul Wouters' <paul@nohats.ca>, ipsec@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00.txt
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Hi Jun,

> The earlier we get rid of IKEv1, the better
> Just one comment, regarding "IKEv2 has now seen wide deployment and provides a full replacement for all
> IKEv1 functionality." , I think there is one feature IKEv2 hasn't provided equivalent yet is group key
> management. Of course, I don't think it is a show stopper, just there should be some clarification on this

The Group Key Management for IKEv2 is on the new ipsecme charter and 
there is even a candidate document for it: draft-yeung-g-ikev2.

Regards,
Valery.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IPsec <ipsec-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Paul Wouters
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 11:39 AM
> To: ipsec@ietf.org WG <ipsec@ietf.org>
> Subject: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00.txt
> 
> 
> As we discussed on the list and in Bangkok, we were going to submit a document to deprecrate IKEv1 and
> various old skool algorithms using a [DEPRECATED] column in the IANA registry.
> 
> I wrote a first draft to do this...
> 
> Paul
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:35 PM
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00.txt
> To: Paul Wouters <pwouters@redhat.com>
> 
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Paul Wouters and posted to the IETF repository.
> 
> Name:           draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Deprecation of IKEv1 and obsoleted algorithms Document date:  2019-03-11
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          6
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard-00
> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-pwouters-ikev1-ipsec-graveyard
> 
> 
> Abstract:
>    This document deprecates Internet Key Exchange version 1 (IKEv1) and
>    additionally deprecates a number of algorithms that are obsolete.
> 
> 
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