Re: [IPsec] Is there any drafts or RFCs on solutions to RFC 7018 Auto-Discovery VPN Problem Statement and Requirements?

Praveen Sathyanarayan <praveenys@juniper.net> Mon, 18 May 2020 17:16 UTC

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From: Praveen Sathyanarayan <praveenys@juniper.net>
To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>, "ipsec@ietf.org WG" <ipsec@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Is there any drafts or RFCs on solutions to RFC 7018 Auto-Discovery VPN Problem Statement and Requirements?
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Is there any drafts or RFCs on solutions to RFC 7018 Auto-Discovery VPN Problem Statement and Requirements?
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Hi Linda,

We published the following draft for AutoDiscovery VPN. It is already implemented by Juniper and other major vendors.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sathyanarayan-ipsecme-advpn-03

Thanks,
Praveen
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Subject: [IPsec] Is there any drafts or RFCs on solutions to RFC 7018 Auto-Discovery VPN Problem Statement and Requirements?


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We are experiencing the problems described in RFC 7018 (Auto-Discovery VPN Problem Statement and Requirements), i.e. the  problem of enabling a large number of peers (primarily Gateway) to communicate directly using IPsec to protect the traffic between them.



Is there any drafts describing the solutions to the problems identified by RFC7018?



Thank you very much,



Linda Dunbar


Juniper Business Use Only