Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> Mon, 17 June 1996 18:18 UTC
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To: "C. Harald Koch" <chk@border.com>
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Subject: Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:21:55 -0400
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
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"C. Harald Koch" writes: > It has been brought to my attention that UUNET Technologies has a pair of > patents covering network encryption. The patents are very broad, and > basically cover anything that selectively encrypts datagrams based on > source/destination information. This would automatically cover all > implementations of the IPsec protocols. > > UUNET's legal staff have stated their intent to begin actively pursuing > these patents, beginning this summer. It is my understanding that their > licensing terms are quite reasonable. However, this patent has (obvious) > implications for everyone here, and so I bring it to your attention. The UUNET people did their work AFTER vast amounts of prior art was produced. Network layer encryption based on source/destination address goes back much further, and even products existed, from my memory, before then. Hell, blacker predates all of this. I also remember there having been work on this stuff ten years earlier by our own Steve Kent. I suspect this is the usual bad patent situation. If UUNET's legal staff try to pursue this, I hope that the industry very strongly stands up to them. Provided I am right on the prior art my own company will certainly do so. Perry
- UUNET Network Encryption Patents C. Harald Koch
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Jack De Winter
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents John Ioannidis
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents C. Harald Koch
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Per Unell
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents John Gilmore
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Robert Moskowitz
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Steven Bellovin
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents MarkVon
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- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents PALAMBER.US.ORACLE.COM
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Perry E. Metzger
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Carl F. Muckenhirn
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Robert Moskowitz
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Jim Thompson
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Perry E. Metzger
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Carl F. Muckenhirn
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Jim Thompson
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Perry E. Metzger
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Phil Karn
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Phil Karn
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Jim Thompson
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Steven Bellovin
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Joe Tardo
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Jonathan M. Smith
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Stephen Kent
- Re: UUNET Network Encryption Patents Stephen Kent
- Re: UPenn Network Encryption Patent John Gilmore
- Re: UPenn Network Encryption Patent Jonathan M. Smith