RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)?
"Bernard Aboba" <aboba@internaut.com> Fri, 15 October 1999 01:42 UTC
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From: Bernard Aboba <aboba@internaut.com>
To: 'Stephen Kent' <kent@bbn.com>, 'Jim Tiller' <tiller_j@ins.com>
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Subject: RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)?
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:05:13 -0700
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Please. We went through this issue in the L2TP draft and your proposed wording was rejected. No "misleading claims" were included in the original draft, and in fact it was your proposed wording that was rejected as misleading. Let's not go rewriting history. In L2TP it is perfectly possible to apply filters to achieve the same level of security. In fact, if anything the argument went the other way -- because L2TP does user authentication, when run over IPSEC its security is stronger than that of IPSEC tunnel mode implementations that only do machine authentication and therefore have no idea who the user is.
- PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Ari Huttunen
- RE: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Shriver, John
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Ari Huttunen
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Scott G. Kelly
- Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Jim Tiller
- Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Stephen Kent
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Shriver, John
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Stephen Kent
- Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Jim Tiller
- Re[6]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Jim Tiller
- Re[4]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Jim Tiller
- RE: Re[4]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Shriver, John
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Scott G. Kelly
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Pyda Srisuresh
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Bernard Aboba
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Ari Huttunen
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Stephen Kent
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Pyda Srisuresh
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Stephen Kent
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Pyda Srisuresh
- RE: Re[2]: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Stephen Kent
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Paul Koning
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Ari Huttunen
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? David Chen
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? Ari Huttunen
- Re: PPP over IPSec (without L2TP)? David Chen