[IPsec] Re: Comments on draft-pwouters-ipsecme-delete-info

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 11 August 2024 05:02 UTC

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Subject: [IPsec] Re: Comments on draft-pwouters-ipsecme-delete-info
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Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> wrote:
    > Michael Richardson writes:
    >> If we are going to rely on the enum alone, then it needs to cover all sorts
    >> of cases that might be specific to some implementations, while other
    >> implementations would have a more general code.

    > Perhaps instead of reason text we have generic enumeration of close
    > reasons like we have now, but in addition to that we have 32-bit
    > vendor specific reason code. The vendors could then use that vendor
    > specific code field to put in some internal error code or something

It could even just be some unique slug that the gateway sending the
message could put into it's log.

I'm agnostic about including the text; include a language tag if we like.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
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