Re: [IPsec] Some thoughts regarging draft-hopps-ipsecme-iptfs-01

Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> Tue, 03 December 2019 12:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Some thoughts regarging draft-hopps-ipsecme-iptfs-01
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> On Dec 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:57:59AM -0500, Christian Hopps wrote:
>> 
>> Technically though, attaching a packet ID to the fragments to allowing sending them in any order saves only a little on code complexity (i.e., not using an ordering queue) on the sender side;
> 
> I hoped to avoid such an ordering/serialization queue as I fear
> this will become a bottleneck. With the current design, I don't
> see how to do this without a queue. I know, it is an implementation
> detail, but implementation matters too :)

Absolutely.

>> however, it seems to add a disproportionate amount of complexity to the receiver/reassembly (which could e.g., be aggregating VPN server).
> 
> Yes, if you know that the next fragment comes with the next ESP
> packet, things are much easier. So we have the complexity either
> at the sender or the receiver side, not so sure what performs better.

FWIW, we will have some implementation/operational experience here to look at, as a WG, prior to making any final choices. I'm currently working to code this for running over a 100G link in a whitebox setup, and I will report back to the WG when we have some numbers. :)

Thanks,
Chris.