Re: Re[2]: AH (without ESP) on a secure gateway
Ran Atkinson <rja@cisco.com> Wed, 04 December 1996 19:25 UTC
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From: Ran Atkinson <rja@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: AH (without ESP) on a secure gateway
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I believe that ESP should continue to always imply that encryption is in use. The presence/absence of encryption is the primary reason that AH is separate from ESP. Were it not for the political realities of regulation of encryption in various locales, AH and ESP would not have been separate protocols in the first place. I am aware of cases where in practice more than one government regulatory authority has been persuaded to handle AH export/use licensing with significantly less hassle BECAUSE the AH spec does not support encryption. I am aware that many implementers of AH have in fact implemented a "tunnel-mode AH" (which looks like this: [ip:r1->r2][ah][ip:h1->h2][ulp], where r1,r2 are security gateways and h1,h2 are end nodes). I believe that the best approach is to simply add a definition of this tunnel-mode AH into the AH base specification. This also has the virtue of having the least amount of negative impact on interoperability of existing AH implementations. Comments ? Ran rja@cisco.com
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