[IPsec] PAKE selection process - review how PAKEs fit to IKEv2

"Valery Smyslov" <smyslov.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 10 September 2019 08:34 UTC

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From: "Valery Smyslov" <smyslov.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: [IPsec] PAKE selection process - review how PAKEs fit to IKEv2
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(sorry for cross-posting)

Hi,

on CFRG secretary request I volunteered to prepare a review of how 
each of the eight PAKE candidates can be integrated into the IKEv2. 
The review is in the form of I-D (see below).

Conclusion: IKEv2 is flexible enough to accommodate any
of the PAKE candidates. There is already a framework
for integrating PAKE protocols into IKEv2, defined in RFC6467.
Unfortunately, it has an "Experimental" status and is not widely
supported, but I still think using it is a good way to go.
The draft also discusses some alternative approaches.

Comments are appreciated.

Regards,
Valery Smyslov.


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A new version of I-D, draft-smyslov-ikev2-pake-00.txt
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Name:		draft-smyslov-ikev2-pake
Revision:	00
Title:		Usage of PAKE Protocols with IKEv2
Document date:	2019-09-09
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		16
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-smyslov-ikev2-pake-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smyslov-ikev2-pake/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-smyslov-ikev2-pake-00
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-smyslov-ikev2-pake


Abstract:
   This memo discusses how PAKE (Password Authenticated Key Exchange)
   protocols can be integrated into the IKEv2 (Internet Key Exchange)
   protocol.

                                                                                  


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