Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt - alternate names
Rodney Thayer <rodney@tillerman.nu> Fri, 11 September 1998 01:51 UTC
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:07:41 -0400
To: Dave Mason <dmason@tis.com>
From: Rodney Thayer <rodney@tillerman.nu>
Subject: Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt - alternate names
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At 06:23 PM 9/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >Can someone give me a real-life example of how having the subjectAltName >field closes a security hole that exists when the subjectAltName field >isn't present? subjectAltName is the (standard) way to present the IP address, if you want to match the IP address in the ID payload to the certificate. > >Does stating that the PKI MUST provide for the use of at least two public >key technologies (section 2.1) mean that IPSec devices MUST always have at >least two usage certificates with differing public key technologies? If >not, why is having two public key technologies required for a PKI >cryptographically sound environment but not for an IPsec device >cryptographically sound environment? well all those DES-only boxes out there that couldn't trivially switch to Triple DES or something else were somewhat inconvienced by the DES cracker... > >In section 2.2 what is the basis for the seemingly arbitrary number >of 8 in the paragraph that starts "IPSec devices MUST support a signing >hierarchy ...". I'm not really sure what is meant by this paragraph. >Does it mean you must be able support the simultaneous use of eight >or more root signing certificates or does it mean you must support >signing chains of length up to 8 or longer? must be able to support at least 8, don't have to use them all. I wanted some real number in there. > >In the next paragraph, why must all the certificates have the same >key length? Why can't the root signing cert be 2048 and the usage >cert be 1024? Why can't the IPsec device have a 1024 cert that it >uses for most connections and a 2048 cert that it uses for connections >requiring a greater level of security? > >Does the third paragraph of section 3.2 mean that IKE implementations >should not accept or send certificate chains via IKE? No, it means you shouldn't accept a root you didn't get in a secure manner. you can send the usage cert and the chain (except for the root) over IKE but you shouldn't send the root over IKE. "trust me, I'm certified, see? I just signed the root myself here on my PC...) > >-dmason >
- comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt - alt… Moshe Litvin
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Michael C. Richardson
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Tero Kivinen
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Joern Sierwald
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Tero Kivinen
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Moshe Litvin
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Dave Mason
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- RE: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Michael C. Richardson
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… bmanning
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Dave Mason
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rizwan Mallal
- RE: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Dave Mason
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… C. Harald Koch
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Michael C. Richardson
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Dave Mason
- Re: comments on draft-ietf-ipsec-pki-req-01.txt -… Rodney Thayer