Re: [IPsec] Updated ESP/AH algorithm I-D

"Frankel, Sheila E." <sheila.frankel@nist.gov> Tue, 12 March 2013 18:15 UTC

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From: "Frankel, Sheila E." <sheila.frankel@nist.gov>
To: Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com>, "ipsec@ietf.org" <ipsec@ietf.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:14:54 -0400
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Steve,

I certainly didn't intend any insults, and I wouldn't characterize the wording in the RFC's as sloppy. It's very common to use these terms somewhat interchangeably. 

Sorry if my wording could be construed as a criticism. That's the last thing I'd want, considering the tremendous amount of hard work that went into the RFCs.

Regards,
Sheila
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From: Stephen Kent [kent@bbn.com]
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To: ipsec@ietf.org; Frankel, Sheila E.
Subject: Re: [IPsec] Updated ESP/AH algorithm I-D

Sheila,

I understood your point. I objected to your statement that other IPsec
RFC were
sloppy in the use of security service/mechanism terminology.

Steve

> Steve,
>
> Perhaps I wasn't clear in the main thrust of my message. I'm not quibbling about terminology; I'm concerned that the I-D is lacking some vital information. The I-D discusses 2 services provided by ESP and AH: confidentiality and data origin authentication. My point was that the 2nd service includes connectionless integrity protection as well - which is not identical to data origin authentication - and therefore integrity protection should be mentioned in the I-D.
>
> Sheila
>