Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security
"The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)" <ho@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 19 March 2002 01:47 UTC
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William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com> said: It was certain members of the WG who insisted we didn't need the counter. At least one has admitted he was wrong. Are you ever going to admit you were? I didn't realize that a call for admission had been previously issued. Sure, I was wrong. It was a surprise to me that protocols are not monotonic wrt non-security requirements when security is layered onto them. Hilarie
- 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Dennis Beard
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Sandy Harris
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Paul Koning
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Joe Touch
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Derek Atkins
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security RJ Atkinson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Harald Koch
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Prof. Ahmed Bin Abbas Ahmed Ali Adas
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Brian Lloyd
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security George Michaelson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security RJ Atkinson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Dan McDonald
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Alex Alten
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Michael Choung Shieh
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Alex Alten
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Michael Choung Shieh