Re: [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-02.txt
Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com> Thu, 29 November 2012 17:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-02.txt
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On 11/29/12 9:15 AM, Sean Turner wrote: > On 11/29/12 8:51 AM, Tero Kivinen wrote: >> Tero Kivinen writes: >>> My draft draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-02.txt defines new way to >>> send any type of raw public keys inside IKEv2. RFC5996 only allows >>> sending RSA raw public keys. This means after this we would have two >>> ways to do send RSA raw public keys, old RFC5996 and new format define >>> din my draft. >>> >>> 3) Obsolete old format >>> >>> Make old RFC 5996 format as MUST NOT, and officially obsolete >>> it. This means all implementations should switch to new format >>> as soon as possible. This document must be standard track, and >>> update RFC5996. >>> >>> In the discussion we did not found out that there would have been wide >>> use for the old RFC 5996 defined RSA raw public key, so feeling was >>> that it would be possible to obsolete the old format. It was >>> considered a bad idea to keep two ways of doing same thing. >>> >>> So now I want to know if anybody have anything against if we do just >>> that, i.e. pick the 3rd option and obsolete the old RSA raw public key >>> format. >> >> As there as not been any objections to this change, I will change my >> draft to say that RFC 5996 format is MUST NOT, and obsolete the old >> RSA public key format. The new draft is already posted as >> draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-03.txt. >> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey/ >> >> Diff: >> >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-02&difftype=--html&submit=Go!&url2=draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-03 >> >> >>> The another question is whether this document needs to be WG document >>> or not. As it seems to be that we are updating the RFC5996 and >>> obsoleting stuff from it, there seemed to be some people who felt that >>> this should be WG document. Send your comments about this too. >> >> Only comment to this in the list was from Michael supporting of making >> this to WG document (especially if it can fit to charter). >> >> Yaron said in the meeting that he was unhappy this being individual >> since it obsoletes old format. >> >> So now we need a comment from the ADs and/or chairs whether they feel >> that this fits our current charter (maintain the IPsec standard and to >> facilitate discussion of clarifications, improvements, and extensions >> to IPsec, mostly to IKEv2) or do we need to update the charter. > > The one sentence change to add this to the charter is on today's telechat. Ugh .. I sent it in too late so it's on the next telechat. spt
- [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen-ips… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen… Michael Richardson
- [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen-ips… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen… Sean Turner
- Re: [IPsec] Which option to pick on draft-kivinen… Sean Turner