Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

Raj Singh <rsjenwar@gmail.com> Fri, 03 July 2009 13:50 UTC

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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:21:02 +0530
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From: Raj Singh <rsjenwar@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt
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Hi Yoav,

Mostly the Initiator will decide that it wants to bring UP only IKE SA
without child SA.
But currently there is no notify/VID from Initiator to Responder to indicate
that initiator wants to bring only IKE SA. Even if responder does not
supports "childless IKE_AUTH", it will process IKE_SA_INIT, involding CPU
intensive D-H calculations, and send IKE_SA_INIT response without "childless
VID" payload.

By introducing a notify/VID payload from Initiator that it wants to bring UP
only IKE SA without child SA wil ease the processing ar Responder side. If
responder does not support "childless IKE_AUTH", it can send INVALID_SYNTAX.
Then, Initiator will wait for "Child SA" info to be available to bring UP
both IKE and child SA, normally as mentioned in RFC 4306.

Thanks,
Raj

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> This is the fourth iteration of this draft.  New in this iteration
>  - Another co-author
>  - Changed the name, so that this item is considered in the rechartering
> discussion
>  - Fixed some notation and some discussion based on comments from the list
>
> Yoav
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> Subject: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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>        Title           : A Childless Initiation of the IKE SA
>        Author(s)       : Y. Nir, et al.
>        Filename        : draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt
>        Pages           : 7
>        Date            : 2009-07-01
>
> This document describes an extension to the IKEv2 protocol that
> allows an IKE SA to be created and authenticated without generating a
> child SA.
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