Re: [IPsec] ikev1-graveyard

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Mon, 08 April 2019 21:03 UTC

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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 17:03:13 -0400
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] ikev1-graveyard
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

>> As I understand it, marking something as Historic is something the IESG can
>> do without publishing a document.  The changes to the IANA registries I'm
>> less clear about, but I believe it could also be done without a document.
>
> To move to historic, there should be some form of document (per
> https://www.ietf.org/blog/iesg-statement-designating-rfcs-historic/) but it
> need not be published as an RFC.  The past few times we've done this
> everyone involved had to think for a while to remember what the right way
> to wrangle the wording in the published RFC should be, but we can worry
> about that later if we need to.

Historic really means "no longer used", which we all hope would be the
case for IKEv1, but sadly is not. Seeing how a billion android devices
only support IKEv1, I think "historic" is really not the correct action
at this point.

Paul