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From: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Cc: "<ipsec@ietf.org>" <ipsec@ietf.org>, Valery Smyslov <svanru@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] IKE fragmentation
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On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Valery Smyslov wrote:
>=20
>> Or are you talking about the fictional IETF document (not yet written)
>> describing existing IKEv1 fragmentation? Probably it is better that
>> the authors of that solution document it.
>=20
> I don't think any IKEv1 documents will ever be written again? :)

I think that if we make this a working group document, we should add an App=
endix that will be informational and describe what people are doing for IKE=
v1, including the VendorID and the payload identifier "appropriated" for fr=
agments.

When I implemented this I used the source of Wireshark to figure out how th=
e protocol worked. Pretty poor reverse engineering, but it produced somethi=
ng that interoperates.

Yoav=
