Re: [IPsec] ikev1-graveyard
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Mon, 08 April 2019 22:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] ikev1-graveyard
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: >>> As I understand it, marking something as Historic is something the IESG can >>> do without publishing a document. The changes to the IANA registries I'm >>> less clear about, but I believe it could also be done without a document. >> >> To move to historic, there should be some form of document (per >> https://www.ietf.org/blog/iesg-statement-designating-rfcs-historic/) but it >> need not be published as an RFC. The past few times we've done this >> everyone involved had to think for a while to remember what the right way >> to wrangle the wording in the published RFC should be, but we can worry >> about that later if we need to. > Historic really means "no longer used", which we all hope would be the > case for IKEv1, but sadly is not. Seeing how a billion android devices > only support IKEv1, I think "historic" is really not the correct action > at this point. I don't think that the IETF has any other levers. Marking it as historic does mess up procurement mechanisms, if they actually pay attention to that. I know that the Google Android team are aware of the lack, but it seems that it is not a priority. This is sad, but the IETF works with carrots, not sticks. But, to be clear: I'd like the WG to adopt your document, and I'd like it to be the basis for *something*. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [
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