Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Thu, 14 March 2002 22:11 UTC
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Sandy Harris wrote: >>Dennis Beard wrote: >> >>Hello Mr. Simpson, >> >>I am not quite sure what was the point of your "10 year" memo, >> > > Perhaps just to highlight that something in the process is broken? > 10 years and we haven't got this stuff fully deployed yet. > > Hell, you could argue about whether we've even got it completely > designed and properly specified. (I'd say "Yes, but...".) > > Compare this to the web, which is about 12 years old. If it had > developed equally slowly, we'd stiil be using Gopher and quite > a few well-known companies, products, job titles, etc. would not > exist. Don't forget about SGML. And Hypercard. And others. The web didn't occur overnight; it was a multi-decade evolution. While I hope this isn't the case with IPsec, it's unfair to hold it to a nonexistent 'overnight' success metric. Joe
- 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Dennis Beard
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Sandy Harris
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Paul Koning
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Joe Touch
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Derek Atkins
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security RJ Atkinson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Harald Koch
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Prof. Ahmed Bin Abbas Ahmed Ali Adas
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Brian Lloyd
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security George Michaelson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security RJ Atkinson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Dan McDonald
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security William Allen Simpson
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Alex Alten
- Re: 10 years and no ubiquitous security The Purple Streak (Hilarie Orman)
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Michael Choung Shieh
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Alex Alten
- RE: 10 years and no ubiquitous security Michael Choung Shieh