Re: replay field size
Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com> Wed, 12 February 1997 18:32 UTC
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To: Niels Ferguson <niels@DigiCash.com>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU>, ipsec@tis.com
Subject: Re: replay field size
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:35:54 -0500
From: Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com>
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> BTW, if the hash is used to ensure message integrity, and there is a > separate MAC to ensure authenticity, then you could eliminate the hash. A > MAC provides integrity verification as well, but it doesn't help you > distinguish between a integrity violation and a key-mismatch. We are discussing HMAC-SHA1, which is a MAC built out of SHA1, not pure SHA1, which is an unkeyed hash. See: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ipsec-charter.html and, in particular, the following documents referenced from it: RFC's: IP Authentication Header (RFC 1826) HMAC: Keyed-Hashing for Message Authentication (RFC 2104) I-D's: HMAC-SHA IP Authentication with Replay Prevention Your time may be limited, but please read these three documents at a minimum before commenting further on this proposal; they are small... less than 70k of text. - Bill
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