RE: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated document
john.loughney@nokia.com Tue, 10 January 2006 04:42 UTC
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Subject: RE: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated document
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Hi all, >>> Mobility. >>> >>> The IPv6 mobility model, Mobile Support in IPv6 aka Mobile IPv6, has >>> been adopted from the IPv4 version Mobile IP, with some modifications >>> and extensions. Especially the security model for route optimisation >>> is different. Mobile IPv6 is documented in RFC 3775 and RFC 3776, >>> with an optional extension in RFC 4283. RFC 4225 explains the >>> rational and design behind the route optimisation security model, and >>> its limitations. >> >> I'm not sure I understand why Mobility is being called out for >> discussion. Is this a "NGN" topic? Mobility is _NOT_ what I normally >> think of as "network infrastructure". Its largely an e2e approach >> involving end nodes (mobile & correspondant nodes) and servers (Home >> Agents). It is built on top of a network, it is not part of the "core" >> network itself. Also, there are a lot of IETF WGs that are doing IPv6 >> work that might be related. E.g., autoconf/manet. Do we mention them >> all? What is the criteria for deciding what to mention and what not? >> >> Also, the above isn't entirely accurate. For example, there is no >> route optimization in MIPv4, so it doesn't make sense to say >> "especially the security model for route optimization is different". > >I just answered the questions :-) > >Could we get some input on this from Pekka that wrote the text? I >have no feelings one wy ro the other. I didn't make any changes here. I think that this looks OK. Just for everyone's info, I would assume MobIKE would be within what NGN is looking at. 3GPP WLAN interworking & UMA (essentially GSM voice tunneled over IP/WLAN) use IKEv2 for interworking back into the core network. There is mobility between home & wide-area cellular networks. NGN is starting to look into this area, though I am not sure what everything is that they are investigating for this kind of mobility. John _______________________________________________ ipv6-dir mailing list ipv6-dir@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-dir
- RE: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Leslie Daigle
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Thomas Narten
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Espoo)
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Scott W Brim
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Thomas Narten
- RE: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Scott W Brim
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Scott W Brim
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Allison Mankin
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Espoo)
- RE: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… john.loughney
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Scott W Brim
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- RE: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… john.loughney
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Scott W Brim
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Espoo)
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Scott W Brim
- Re: IAB last call... Re: [ipv6-dir] Re: Updated d… Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Espoo)