Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt
Andrew Cady <andy@cryptonomic.net> Tue, 06 July 2021 17:04 UTC
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From: Andrew Cady <andy@cryptonomic.net>
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt
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On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 12:54:01PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Andrew Cady <andy@cryptonomic.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 05:00:04PM +0100, Ted Hardie wrote: > >> > >> My apologies; it appears that I didn't get my intent across. > >> Let me try to rephrase. Because of a collision between the > >> defined zone-id scope-id separator and the URI syntax > > > I've already explained to this list, last week, why there is > > no collision. So it appears to me, not that I've failed to > > understand your intent, but that you didn't even read that. :( > > > To be fair, it was long. Today I reiterate everything. > > > There is no such collision because IPv6-Literal is not a > > percent-decoded data component. Percent-decoding is done > > AFTER parsing into components, only some of which are encoded > > like that. It's done on OTHER COMPONENTS but not done on the > > component where you say it conflicts. > > So why do the browser implementers have such difficulties with > processing this? Running code wins. There is no difficulty implementing it the way that I say to do it! The difficulty (or rather, refusal) is implementing it the broken way that the standard says to do. I say we fix the broken standard to get it implemented! > You can argue forever that they are wrong, and yet, here we are, ten years > later, without anything working. Firefox DID implement this. Mozilla REMOVED the implementation. Mozilla refuses to add the feature BECAUSE OF THIS STANDARD. That's the whole reason this standard is being re-opened. The browser devs refuse to implement first. They demand standards change first.
- Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Ted Hardie
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nico Schottelius
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Ted Hardie
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874… Michael Richardson
- Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nico Schottelius
- Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874… Ted Hardie
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Ted Hardie
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Jared Mauch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nico Schottelius
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nico Schottelius
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Carsten Bormann
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Jared Mauch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Ted Hardie
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Philip Homburg
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Philip Homburg
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Andrew Cady
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-0… Brian E Carpenter