Re: [v6ops] Stateful SLAAC (draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host)

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 13 November 2017 03:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Stateful SLAAC (draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:27:22 +0800
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On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:
> The session state mechanics is considered out of scope for this particular v6ops document. It can be done in many many ways… and the across reboots can be done in many ways also, depending on the capabilities of the router and the backend OSS system. Its out of scope.

Sure, I get that, but the document doesn't say what the required behavior is.   I don't think that should be out of scope.   This is somewhat exacerbated by the proposed update to the privacy considerations section as a result of Alissa's DISCUSS.